6/2 - Xander | AMPS 69 - AM dose in ~15 min. Do I shoot? [Shot full @ 9:20] | Feline Diabetes Management Board

6/2 - Xander | AMPS 69 - AM dose in ~15 min. Do I shoot? [Shot full @ 9:20]

Brianna & Xander

Brianna & Xander

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5/30/25

Was gone for a couple days for a busy weekend. Last night I increased to 2.25 after 10 cycles on 2 with minimal (and borderline) greens. Technically he had seen green 4 cycles earlier, but it was only 98 (so barely green, and doesn't seem like enough to bounce intensely from after all the recent actual lows he's had). I'm not sure if he's clearing a bounce this morning, or if 2.25 is still too much.

When I got up at 7:45 he was at 62. Once we got up and were moving he briefly went up to 126, but by PS (30 min prior to dose is how we have to do it, that's when we feed and apply lidocaine) he was at 69.

He's at 98 now, but his numbers have been jumping around. Technically he did just eat 2 tsp of 2% for his PS meal, but it was only 7 minutes ago, so probably not enough time to be the cause.

Should I be shooting at all this morning? A reduced dose? The full dose? I know we shoot low to stay low, but I'm not sure how it works when it's like this where he's been going down the whole cycle with no real rise yet.

I know I'm like the only person on the west coast so I hope someone might be around to help. 🙏🏻 Thank you!!
 
Karolina & Nestle said:
Good meowning
You know your baby best and your own comfort level. I think it comes down to how much you can monitor. Hopefully Wendy is around to give you advice.
I'll tag Bhooma as well @Bandit's Mom
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I'll be here all day, so I can monitor nonstop. I've just never had a green PS before (and was hoping for a slightly higher one when I got it 😬). I will be by myself though so it'll probably be a really scary day for me. I'm not unwilling to deal with that, of course, but I want to know if it's smart or not to try. He's kinda floating back and forth between 70-82 right now. 11 minutes til my normal dose time. Thank you for the additional tag! 🤗
 
You can always consider shooting half a dose. Or feed higher carb food than usual and shoot normal dose. You can also test his again at the usualy pre-shot time and if he's still too low for your comfort you can stall and re-test 15min later.
Hopefully Wendy or Bhooma can weigh in.
Brianna & Xander said:
I'll be here all day, so I can monitor nonstop. I've just never had a green PS before (and was hoping for a slightly higher one when I got it 😬). I will be by myself though so it'll probably be a really scary day for me. I'm not unwilling to deal with that, of course, but I want to know if it's smart or not to try. He's kinda floating back and forth between 70-82 right now. 11 minutes til my normal dose time. Thank you for the additional tagHopefully Wendy or Bhooma can weigh in
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Karolina & Nestle said:
You can always consider shooting half a dose. Or feed higher carb food than usual and shoot normal dose. You can also test his again at the usualy pre-shot time and if he's still too low for your comfort you can stall and re-test 15min later.
Hopefully Wendy or Bhooma can weigh in.
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I'm always so worried about making the wrong choice. If this is our chance at a breakthrough I wanna take it, but if it's going to be too dangerous obviously I don't. I'm really hoping someone can look at his sheet and tell me what they think is the smartest course of action.

Every time I think he's finally rising he drops again. He was around 106 for a few minutes, and as I was typing that he was going up a little he dropped back down. 😩

Right now would normally be PS if I fed at shot time. He's back to 61.
 
And now 3 minutes past (would-be) dose, alarm is going off and he's at 53, still with the "rapidly dropping" icon. 😕

ETA: 7 minutes past (would-be) dose and he's at 73. No food for the past ~40 minutes. He's just jumping around.

ETA 2: 15 minutes past, 91.
 
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Karolina & Nestle said:
I'm sorry i can't help you more than that but I'm not experienced enough to give dose advice.
Do you have any MC or HC food available?
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It's okay, I understand! My need help timing just always seems to be bad. *sigh*

I have some MC (12%, 15%), some that's supposedly 18% (but am not positive), and a little of 20%. I also have lots of honey. When he's been low early in the cycle he's sometimes been hard to raise, though I haven't used the 20% very often.

ETA (just for anyone coming in, to keep up): 20 minutes late, 104.
 
I'd test again 30min past the reg shot time and see. I'd make my decision then so your cycle doesn't get thrown off too much.
Good thing you have all that MC and HC on hand. And if you can monitor today since you're home I'd give him something it's just up to you whether you feel comfortable enough to give a full dose.
Also remeber you're not shooting the number he's at at the timenof the shot. You're trying to predict where he'll be at +2,+3 etc.
 
Just seeing this.
How off schedule are you?
How long ago was he fed? What is his BG now?
Shooting at lower numbers usually will give a nice flat cycle. If you can monitor and have the supplies, you can shoot the full dose?
 
Karolina & Nestle said:
I'd test again 30min past the reg shot time and see. I'd make my decision then so your cycle doesn't get thrown off too much.
Good thing you have all that MC and HC on hand. And if you can monitor today since you're home I'd give him something it's just up to you whether you feel comfortable enough to give a full dose.
Also remeber you're not shooting the number he's at at the timenof the shot. You're trying to predict where he'll be at +2,+3 etc.
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It's 30 minutes past regular shot time right now, actually. He's 112 now. It at least seems stabler than it was before, but I often think that and then he does something unexpected suddenly. That makes me feel like I can't predict where he'll be in a few hours.

I do have the food. If I were to have an emergency it would be probably at least an hour wait for my partner to come home so we could bring him somewhere (but that's always true).

I'm comfortable shooting any number that people think is safe (I know that's not you), but he's so erratic sometimes that I never know what's safe. But I also don't want to just never get anywhere because we always have to skip or reduce because we don't know what to do. 😞
 
Angela & Cleo said:
Just seeing this.
How off schedule are you?
How long ago was he fed? What is his BG now?
Shooting at lower numbers usually will give a nice flat cycle. If you can monitor and have the supplies, you can shoot the full dose?
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Hi Angela,

We're 30 minutes stalled right now. Last food he had was an hour ago, just 2 tsp of 2%. Before that it was 3% 4 1/2 hours ago. Current BG is 118.

As long as you think it's safe (given that I can monitor and have food), I'm happy to shoot. I just wanted someone more experienced to take a peek and make sure I wouldn't be making a horrible choice given the cycle was odd.
 
Angela & Cleo said:
If you can monitor and have the necessary supplies, I would go ahead and shoot the full dose, feed but keep him a little hungry so that he can eat again at +1 and +2 to start. Scan the Libre for the +1 and post. I am at work atm but will be checking in on you.
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Thank you so much! I'll shoot the whole dose and will add a new comment with his +1.
 
Just shot the full dose and he was 102 at the time. Just realized he had vomited a bit in the time it took me to get the syringe, but hopefully that doesn't backfire on us.

I'll be back at his +1 (10:20 Pacific) with his numbers. I normally give him 2 tsp at PS, +1, +2, and +3 but I can do half to keep him hungry (or somewhere between if that's too little).
 
Angela & Cleo said:
If you have a little less at PS, then give the rest at +.5 then again at +1.
Great job shooting. Lantus is very good at keeping numbers flat when shooting lower. 🤗
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I gave him his PS food at 8 (an hour and 20 minutes prior) so he hasn't had anything as of what ended up being actual PS after the stall. Should I give him that small amount now, another small amount at +0.5 and the same at +1? Or just wait until +1?

Thank you!! That's what I was hoping for, I just wanted to make sure it was safe first.
 
Mary & Jude said:
Brava Brianna!! Come on, Xander--give us a nice, flat, safe green surf!
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Thanks, Mary. It's been a rough morning. 🤗 I was not brave and spent most of the morning crying not knowing what to do. Then stabbed myself with the first needle and couldn't get it to stop bleeding while I tried to prepare the second. lol What a disaster I am. I hope at least we get a nice cycle for it.
 
Brianna & Xander said:
@Angela & Cleo - +1 95. About 10 minutes ago he was at 64. I just gave him half of his usual +1 food (hasn't touched it yet). Should I continue to feed him half his usual snacks at the half hours, or switch to the full snack for +2 and +3?
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Keep offering small amounts of food often. Id offer a little MC now since he gave you the 74 and scan/test again shortly. Keep track of what you feed and when so that you have a frame of reference in the future.
 
Angela & Cleo said:
Keep offering small amounts of food often. Id offer a little MC now since he gave you the 74 and scan/test again shortly. Keep track of what you feed and when so that you have a frame of reference in the future.
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Okay, definitely will do. Thank you again for your help. Should I let you know his +2 and +3 as well? I know you're at work.
 
It's really scary the first few times shooting green, Brianna, so good for you giving it a go! ✨
You are super-prepared with all the necessary supplies (I would expect nothing less from you) so now you just have to watch and see.
So far you are surfing nicely, Xander, keep it going sweet boy 💙💚💙


Brianna & Xander said:
Then stabbed myself with the first needle and couldn't get it to stop bleeding while I tried to prepare the second.
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I did this the other day too. I couldn't believe how sore it was and I too bled and bled!
 
Helen + Noogi said:
It's really scary the first few times shooting green, Brianna, so good for you giving it a go! ✨
You are super-prepared with all the necessary supplies (I would expect nothing less from you) so now you just have to watch and see.
So far you are surfing nicely, Xander, keep it going sweet boy 💙💚💙

I did this the other day too. I couldn't believe how sore it was and I too bled and bled!
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Thank you, Helen! It ended up just barely not being green (102) but that 69 earlier sure was uncomfortable!

It's amazing how much that tiny needle can hurt and bleed! I guess since we're not holding it at the right angle to do it gently like we would for them it's way worse. 🤦🏻‍♀️
 
100 @ +3.

I'm still splitting his snacks in half and giving them every half hour instead of hour. I just gave him the first half of his +3 but he doesn't seem to want it. Normally after +3 I'd wait until about +5 for his (bigger) lunch. Should I continue doing the half hour feedings or just stop after this and give him his full lunch in a couple of hours?
 
I am so late to this, sorry!! Really glad you were able to get some advice!
What an incredible cycle so far, omg 😻 🤯
Congrats on shooting basically a green!! And for keeping him surfing so well all day. So so happy for you both. Many many anti-jinx, as I'm hoping you can ride this surf out for a while.
Yay Brianna! Yay Xander! 💙💚
 
Briana + Binx said:
I am so late to this, sorry!! Really glad you were able to get some advice!
What an incredible cycle so far, omg 😻 🤯
Congrats on shooting basically a green!! And for keeping him surfing so well all day. So so happy for you both. Many many anti-jinx, as I'm hoping you can ride this surf out for a while.
Yay Brianna! Yay Xander! 💙💚
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Thanks, Briana! 🥰 Really curious to see if it'll end up being blue and green all the way through, or if we're gonna head back up by the end of the cycle. If not, then maybe I'll be shooting my first green tonight, even if I was 3 points shy this morning. 🫣
 
Brianna & Xander said:
Really really close! I wonder if I'll end up shooting my first green tonight, or if he'll bounce into the stratosphere before then. 🫣
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He's done really good today (as have you, Brianna). Xander is just NOT a cat I'd bet on in terms of what to expect one hour to the next :D His bg is what I might refer to as mercurial. I HOPE he'll hold onto these blues and greens through the next cycle, though. Only Xander's pancreas knows for sure.
 
Mary & Jude said:
He's done really good today (as have you, Brianna). Xander is just NOT a cat I'd bet on in terms of what to expect one hour to the next :D His bg is what I might refer to as mercurial. I HOPE he'll hold onto these blues and greens through the next cycle, though. Only Xander's pancreas knows for sure.
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Thanks, Mary! I agree, he's very unpredictable. Makes things scary with him. 😓

Now we've hit limes though, so not even sure what we'll be doing in a few hours. 🙃 *sigh*
 
Hi Brianna wow, you and Xander sure had a day😳
Sorry I was busy at work today and couldn’t jump on here earlier.
You did just great and so glad Karolina and Angela were here to help you! 💚💙💚💙
I hope Xander has a safe surf tonight and you can get some rest. I’m sure you’re exhausted by now 🥰
Be good for your mama, Xander. Stay safe you two! 😻🐈‍⬛❤️‍🩹🐾🤞
 
Staci & Ivy said:
Hi Brianna wow, you and Xander sure had a day😳
Sorry I was busy at work today and couldn’t jump on here earlier.
You did just great and so glad Karolina and Angela were here to help you! 💚💙💚💙
I hope Xander has a safe surf tonight and you can get some rest. I’m sure you’re exhausted by now 🥰
Be good for your mama, Xander. Stay safe you two! 😻🐈‍⬛❤️‍🩹🐾🤞
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It sure has been a day - not looking to be slowing down yet (if anything, it's accelerating). 🫣

Wondering what I'm going to even end up doing tonight. His run in the supposed 40s lasted about 4 minutes, so a pretty quick dip. Still in the "will he/won't he go back down" zone right now though so that may change. 😓 FWIW, the Libre graph has removed it though, shows 53 as the lowest he hit.
 
Great job today Brianna! What a wild day you’ve had. And a great cycle for him if you ignore the lime (the libre deleted it from memory so maybe we can too 😅)! I hope he comes up a teensy bit for you so you can shoot comfortably and get some rest tonight.
 
CharliesMom22 said:
Great job today Brianna! What a wild day you’ve had. And a great cycle for him if you ignore the lime (the libre deleted it from memory so maybe we can too 😅)! I hope he comes up a teensy bit for you so you can shoot comfortably and get some rest tonight.
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Thanks, Jess! It's definitely been quite a day. Despite how I feel about it it's obviously the best day we've had since diagnosis (just not fun for me lol) so it's a little mixed. Happy but stressed! Hoping the bounce isn't too high but juuuust enough to let me recover lol
 
Brianna & Xander said:
It sure has been a day - not looking to be slowing down yet (if anything, it's accelerating). 🫣

Wondering what I'm going to even end up doing tonight. His run in the supposed 40s lasted about 4 minutes, so a pretty quick dip. Still in the "will he/won't he go back down" zone right now though so that may change. 😓 FWIW, the Libre graph has removed it though, shows 53 as the lowest he hit.
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So glad he came up for your Pmps! 🥰
And I hope you got some rest last night, Brianna! ❤️‍🩹
Those cycles are tough! And not knowing what lies ahead is stressful. Been there 🤯
Hope Xander has a calm and boring day so you can recover 🥰🐈‍⬛😻💕
 
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